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Quel roman vous a plongé dans la fantasy ?

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 8:07 am
par jerome
Le site SF Signal a posé cette question à des auteurs anglo-saxons.

Parmi les réponses Karen Miller, David Anthony Durham, Hal Duncan ou Brandon Sanderson.

Je vous mets la réponse d'Hal Duncan :
"Easy one. The Borribles by Michael de Larrabeiti is the book that set my whole perception of fantasy, back when I was a mere nipper -- I couldn't tell you exactly how old, but I'd guess about eight or nine. It's possible that I read C.S. Lewis before, but Narnia is allegory, right? So fuck that Christian shit. Besides, everyone gets The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe foisted on them in school, so it doesn't count. No, The Borribles is the first fantasy book I discovered for myself, and it pretty much set the mould for the type of fantasy I've been interested in ever since. I'd call it urban fantasy, if that term hadn't been co-opted to something else. What it is, is one of those fantasies in which our world is permeated by the fantastic, more Neil Gaiman than Terry Brooks. You don't have to go through a portal to find a magic polder, a refuge from reality. The fantastic doesn't invade via some rift, as a terrible threat to be averted. No, it's just there already, in the seams, the interstices, the back-alleys and side-streets of our world.

See, the book sort of turns a savagely cynical eye on two cherished childhood fictions -- Peter Pan and The Wombles -- takes them round the back of the bike sheds and gives them a sound drubbing. The Borribles are what the Lost Boys would really be like, stripped of all the wistful sentimentality of Neverland. There's no fairytale island here; this is 70s London and Borribles are thieving little street oiks, runaways who've decided that growing up is a mug's game and they're just not going to bother. Instead these pointy-eared punks live in squats, stealing electricity, food, clothes, whatever they need to survive, always in danger of being caught by the fuzz, who'll clip their ears if they catch them -- causing them to grow up after all, the worst possible fate a Borrible can imagine. Meanwhile, their deadly foes, the "rumbles," are what the wombles would really be like -- giant rodents armed with "rumble sticks", lethal staff-weapons with a six-inch-nail embedded in the top, giant rats who live in a vast warren underneath "Rumbledon Common." With their lisping hatred for those "howwible bowwibles," and their somewhat poncy ways, there's more than a hint of class war here. There's as much Steerpike as Artful Dodger in your average Borrible, and you can't help but feel that, with the rumbles, the author is taking a pop at all the bourgeois bollocks of children's fiction for and by the middle-classes. This is what you'd get if Roald Dahl had been into the Clash.

The plot? Every Borrible has to earn his name in an adventure, see, so a Dirty Dozen style team of unnamed Borribles is brought together -- one from every borough -- on a mission of assassination. Each takes the name of their target, a member of the rumble High Command -- Napoleon, Torreycanyon, Vulgaria, and so on. And not only do you get the perils and shenanigans as the heroes cross London; when they finally get into the rumble base, the methods of killing are... brutally inventive, to say the least. All I'll say is that the sequel has a decapitation by shovel, in a Wandsworth sewer, with all manner of scabrous adventure leading up to it. The result is fun of the most vicious kind, a trilogy of tales with all the adventure, betrayal, slaughter, larceny, slavery, intrigue and redemption any blood-thirsty kid could hope for. The Borribles books piss on everything Enid Blyton ever wrote, and they're probably the reason I never could take Tolkien that seriously. Furry-footed little critters that live underground and fuss over high tea and tiffin? Sounds like effing rumbles to me, mate. Bollocks to 'em.

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Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 8:41 am
par Lensman
Sympa et intéressant!
Moi, c'est "Elric le Nécromancien" de Moorcock, en Aventures Fantastiques, OPTA) et le cycle des épée de Leiber (pareil pour l'éditeur). Mais ça n'a pas été une bonne chose, parce qu'après, les autres trucs que j'ai lus, dans leur immense majorité, ne m'ont pas plus. Pourquoi? Mystère.
Oncle Joe

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 9:34 am
par Julien d'Hem
Pour ma part, c'est le premier cycle de Lancedragon.

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 10:02 am
par kemar
Très intéressant effectivement, moi c'est également Elric de Moorcock et le cycle des épées de Leiber.

Derrière j'ai cela dit lu quelques livres qui m'ont fait continuer à apprécier le genre:
Les annales du disques monde de Pratchett (avec sa petite reference à Stefan Wul)
Légende de Gemmel
les princes d'Ambre de Zelazny
Le trône de fer de G RR Martin
La guerre des fleurs de Tad Williams
Les portes de la mort de Weis et Hickman
Le seigneur des runes de D Farland
La compagnie noire de Glen Cook
Le royaume blessé de Laurent Kloetzer
Gagner la guerre de Jaworski
Le nom du vent de Rothfuss.
Le parfum de Suskind
Entre autres car j'en oublie beaucoup.

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 10:26 am
par Nicolas
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Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 10:38 am
par Don Lorenjy
Bilbo le Hobbit, puis Lyonesse (grand écart).

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 12:19 pm
par Nébal
Le Seigneur des anneaux.

Vach'ment original, hein ?

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 12:22 pm
par MF
Image

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 12:31 pm
par dracosolis
8) la cité et les astres d'Arthur C Clarke :twisted:
non je déconne pas
j'aime la sfff
toute la sfff
et je suis entrée dedans par là

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 12:50 pm
par Virprudens
Non, rien.

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 12:52 pm
par efelle
Le Sorcier de Terremer de Le Guin.

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 12:57 pm
par Aldaran
Don Lorenjy a écrit :Bilbo le Hobbit, puis Lyonesse (grand écart).
Mince... Comment j'ai fait pour répondre sans être là ?

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 1:00 pm
par Patrice
Salut,

Aucun.

IL y a des trucs que j'ai aimé, mais rien qui me fasse apprécier la Fantasy en tant que genre.

A+

Patrice

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 1:13 pm
par Nicky
L'Histoire Sans Fin, vers 9 ou 10 ans.

Mais plus jeune, les autres médias m'avaient déjà fait entrer dans cet univers. Les dessins animés (Disney comme mangas), les livres illustrés, probablement les bandes dessinées... Les trucs plus accessibles à qui sait moins bien lire, quoi.

Posté : mer. oct. 07, 2009 1:16 pm
par Christopher
Conan l'aventurier de Robert E. Howard.