Frank Miller, après avoir publié HOLY TERROR, vient de déclarer ce qu'il pense des Indignés de Wall Street, avec toute la tolérance qui le caractérise. Et ses déclarations ont provoqué une levée de boucliers dans le monde des comics. Je vous laisse juger :
The “Occupy” movement, whether displaying itself on Wall Street or in the streets of Oakland (which has, with unspeakable cowardice, embraced it) is anything but an exercise of our blessed First Amendment. “Occupy” is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness. These clowns can do nothing but harm America.
“Occupy” is nothing short of a clumsy, poorly-expressed attempt at anarchy, to the extent that the “movement” – HAH! Some “movement”, except if the word “bowel” is attached - is anything more than an ugly fashion statement by a bunch of iPhone, iPad wielding spoiled brats who should stop getting in the way of working people and find jobs for themselves.
This is no popular uprising. This is garbage. And goodness knows they’re spewing their garbage – both politically and physically – every which way they can find.
Wake up, pond scum. America is at war against a ruthless enemy.
Maybe, between bouts of self-pity and all the other tasty tidbits of narcissism you’ve been served up in your sheltered, comfy little worlds, you’ve heard terms like al-Qaeda and Islamicism.
And this enemy of mine — not of yours, apparently - must be getting a dark chuckle, if not an outright horselaugh - out of your vain, childish, self-destructive spectacle.
In the name of decency, go home to your parents, you losers. Go back to your mommas’ basements and play with your Lords Of Warcraft.
Or better yet, enlist for the real thing. Maybe our military could whip some of you into shape.
They might not let you babies keep your iPhones, though. Try to soldier on.
Schmucks.
Frank Miller et les Indignés de Wall Street
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Il leur faudrait une bonne guerre, à ces tas de fainéants ! Pas une promenade touristique comme l'Afganistan ou l'Irak, mais un truc bien costaud, qui fera des survivants des hommes, des vrais ! Heureusement qu'il reste un peu d'esprit d'entreprise aux USA, et un peu de patriotisme, avec des gens comme Miller , ça fait chaud au coeur !
Cela dit, les convictions de conservateur dur (pour employer des termes très modérés) de Miller ne sont pas une nouveauté...
Oncle Joe
Cela dit, les convictions de conservateur dur (pour employer des termes très modérés) de Miller ne sont pas une nouveauté...
Oncle Joe
Et encore, vous n'avez pas lu HOLY TERROR... http://www.noosfere.org/icarus/bd/album ... lbum=12287
Un auteur a parodié THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS pour se foutre de Miller
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Ça, c'est bien vrai. De mon temps on nous offrait une formation complémentaire obligatoire de ce type. Grâce aux socialistes du reste.Lensman a écrit :Il leur faudrait une bonne guerre, à ces tas de fainéants ! Pas une promenade touristique comme l'Afganistan ou l'Irak, mais un truc bien costaud, qui fera des survivants des hommes, des vrais ! Heureusement qu'il reste un peu d'esprit d'entreprise aux USA, et un peu de patriotisme, avec des gens comme Miller , ça fait chaud au coeur !
Oncle Joe
J'en ai pris pour deux ans.
Mais c'était pas juste, les filles étaient dispensées.
(C'est pour ça qu'elles ne sont pas devenues des hommes, des vrais.
À dire vrai précisément, je pense que ce fut une sage décision quoique à en voir certaines, on a l'impression qu'elles ont fait dix ans de Légion dans une section disciplinaire…)
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Alan Moore répond à Frank Miller :
Well, Frank Miller is someone whose work I’ve barely looked at for the past twenty years. I thought the Sin City stuff was unreconstructed misogyny, 300 appeared to be wildly ahistoric, homophobic and just completely misguided. I think that there has probably been a rather unpleasant sensibility apparent in Frank Miller’s work for quite a long time. Since I don’t have anything to do with the comics industry, I don’t have anything to do with the people in it. I heard about the latest outpourings regarding the Occupy movement. It’s about what I’d expect from him. It’s always seemed to me that the majority of the comics field, if you had to place them politically, you’d have to say centre-right. That would be as far towards the liberal end of the spectrum as they would go. I’ve never been in any way, I don’t even know if I’m centre-left. I’ve been outspoken about that since the beginning of my career. So yes I think it would be fair to say that me and Frank Miller have diametrically opposing views upon all sorts of things, but certainly upon the Occupy movement.
As far as I can see, the Occupy movement is just ordinary people reclaiming rights which should always have been theirs. I can’t think of any reason why as a population we should be expected to stand by and see a gross reduction in the living standards of ourselves and our kids, possibly for generations, when the people who have got us into this have been rewarded for it; they’ve certainly not been punished in any way because they’re too big to fail. I think that the Occupy movement is, in one sense, the public saying that they should be the ones to decide who’s too big to fail. It’s a completely justified howl of moral outrage and it seems to be handled in a very intelligent, non-violent way, which is probably another reason why Frank Miller would be less than pleased with it. I’m sure if it had been a bunch of young, sociopathic vigilantes with Batman make-up on their faces, he’d be more in favour of it. We would definitely have to agree to differ on that one.
Well, Frank Miller is someone whose work I’ve barely looked at for the past twenty years. I thought the Sin City stuff was unreconstructed misogyny, 300 appeared to be wildly ahistoric, homophobic and just completely misguided. I think that there has probably been a rather unpleasant sensibility apparent in Frank Miller’s work for quite a long time. Since I don’t have anything to do with the comics industry, I don’t have anything to do with the people in it. I heard about the latest outpourings regarding the Occupy movement. It’s about what I’d expect from him. It’s always seemed to me that the majority of the comics field, if you had to place them politically, you’d have to say centre-right. That would be as far towards the liberal end of the spectrum as they would go. I’ve never been in any way, I don’t even know if I’m centre-left. I’ve been outspoken about that since the beginning of my career. So yes I think it would be fair to say that me and Frank Miller have diametrically opposing views upon all sorts of things, but certainly upon the Occupy movement.
As far as I can see, the Occupy movement is just ordinary people reclaiming rights which should always have been theirs. I can’t think of any reason why as a population we should be expected to stand by and see a gross reduction in the living standards of ourselves and our kids, possibly for generations, when the people who have got us into this have been rewarded for it; they’ve certainly not been punished in any way because they’re too big to fail. I think that the Occupy movement is, in one sense, the public saying that they should be the ones to decide who’s too big to fail. It’s a completely justified howl of moral outrage and it seems to be handled in a very intelligent, non-violent way, which is probably another reason why Frank Miller would be less than pleased with it. I’m sure if it had been a bunch of young, sociopathic vigilantes with Batman make-up on their faces, he’d be more in favour of it. We would definitely have to agree to differ on that one.