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Racisme et Science Fiction
En 1998, Samuel R. Delany écrivait un article sur Racisme et Science Fiction.
Un article qui vient d'être mis en ligne.
Voici le début : "
Racism for me has always appeared to be first and foremost a system, largely supported by material and economic conditions at work in a field of social traditions. Thus, though racism is always made manifest through individuals’ decisions, actions, words, and feelings, when we have the luxury of looking at it with the longer view (and we don’t, always), usually I don’t see much point in blaming people personally, white or black, for their feelings or even for their specific actions—as long as they remain this side of the criminal. These are not what stabilize the system. These are not what promote and reproduce the system. These are not the points where the most lasting changes can be introduced to alter the system.
For better or for worse, I am often spoken of as the first African-American science fiction writer. But I wear that originary label as uneasily as any writer has worn the label of science fiction itself. Among the ranks of what is often referred to as proto-science fiction, there are a number of black writers. M. P. Shiel, whose Purple Cloud and Lord of the Sea are still read, was a Creole with some African ancestry. Black leader Martin Delany (1812–1885—alas, no relation) wrote his single and highly imaginative novel, still to be found on the shelves of Barnes & Noble today, Blake, or The Huts of America (1857), about an imagined successful slave revolt in Cuba and the American South—which is about as close to an sf-style alternate history novel as you can get. Other black writers whose work certainly borders on science fiction include Sutton E. Griggs and his novel Imperio Imperium (1899) in which an African-American secret society conspires to found a separate black state by taking over Texas, and Edward Johnson, who, following Bellamy’s example in Looking Backward (1888), wrote Light Ahead for the Negro (1904), telling of a black man transported into a socialist United States in the far future. I believe I first heard Harlan Ellison make the point that we know of dozens upon dozens of early pulp writers only as names: They conducted their careers entirely by mail—in a field and during an era when pen-names were the rule rather than the exception. Among the “Remmington C. Scotts” and the “Frank P. Joneses” who litter the contents pages of the early pulps, we simply have no way of knowing if one, three, or seven or them—or even many more—were not blacks, Hispanics, women, native Americans, Asians, or whatever. Writing is like that. "
Un article qui vient d'être mis en ligne.
Voici le début : "
Racism for me has always appeared to be first and foremost a system, largely supported by material and economic conditions at work in a field of social traditions. Thus, though racism is always made manifest through individuals’ decisions, actions, words, and feelings, when we have the luxury of looking at it with the longer view (and we don’t, always), usually I don’t see much point in blaming people personally, white or black, for their feelings or even for their specific actions—as long as they remain this side of the criminal. These are not what stabilize the system. These are not what promote and reproduce the system. These are not the points where the most lasting changes can be introduced to alter the system.
For better or for worse, I am often spoken of as the first African-American science fiction writer. But I wear that originary label as uneasily as any writer has worn the label of science fiction itself. Among the ranks of what is often referred to as proto-science fiction, there are a number of black writers. M. P. Shiel, whose Purple Cloud and Lord of the Sea are still read, was a Creole with some African ancestry. Black leader Martin Delany (1812–1885—alas, no relation) wrote his single and highly imaginative novel, still to be found on the shelves of Barnes & Noble today, Blake, or The Huts of America (1857), about an imagined successful slave revolt in Cuba and the American South—which is about as close to an sf-style alternate history novel as you can get. Other black writers whose work certainly borders on science fiction include Sutton E. Griggs and his novel Imperio Imperium (1899) in which an African-American secret society conspires to found a separate black state by taking over Texas, and Edward Johnson, who, following Bellamy’s example in Looking Backward (1888), wrote Light Ahead for the Negro (1904), telling of a black man transported into a socialist United States in the far future. I believe I first heard Harlan Ellison make the point that we know of dozens upon dozens of early pulp writers only as names: They conducted their careers entirely by mail—in a field and during an era when pen-names were the rule rather than the exception. Among the “Remmington C. Scotts” and the “Frank P. Joneses” who litter the contents pages of the early pulps, we simply have no way of knowing if one, three, or seven or them—or even many more—were not blacks, Hispanics, women, native Americans, Asians, or whatever. Writing is like that. "
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Re: Racisme et Science Fiction
Ces quelques titres font vraiment envie. Par contre, ils doivent être durs à trouver de ce côté-ci de l'Atlantique, même dans la langue de Shakespeare.jerome a écrit : Black leader Martin Delany (1812–1885—alas, no relation) wrote his single and highly imaginative novel, still to be found on the shelves of Barnes & Noble today, Blake, or The Huts of America (1857), about an imagined successful slave revolt in Cuba and the American South—which is about as close to an sf-style alternate history novel as you can get. Other black writers whose work certainly borders on science fiction include Sutton E. Griggs and his novel Imperio Imperium (1899) in which an African-American secret society conspires to found a separate black state by taking over Texas, and Edward Johnson, who, following Bellamy’s example in Looking Backward (1888), wrote Light Ahead for the Negro (1904), telling of a black man transported into a socialist United States in the far future. [/i]"
La meilleure preuve que l' homme n' est pas fait pour le travail, c' est que ça le fatigue... (Mark Twain)
Pour "Looking Backward", ça va, c'est réédité sans arrêt dans le monde anglo-saxon, et ça doit même être mis en ligne quelque part.
En France, il y a eu au moins trois (trois!) traductions différentes, et je crois qu'il y a eu une réédition tout récemment.
Les autres titres sont sans doute moins évidents, mais il faut chercher (il n'est pas impossible qu'ils soient en ligne quelque part, les facs et les bibliothèques scannent de plus en plus d'excellents documents rares.)
Oncle Joe
En France, il y a eu au moins trois (trois!) traductions différentes, et je crois qu'il y a eu une réédition tout récemment.
Les autres titres sont sans doute moins évidents, mais il faut chercher (il n'est pas impossible qu'ils soient en ligne quelque part, les facs et les bibliothèques scannent de plus en plus d'excellents documents rares.)
Oncle Joe
Finalement, ça n'est pas si diffiicle à trouver, pour certains.
Sur Abebooks, on voit:
1. Stock Photo Imperium in Imperio (ISBN: 0881431052 / 0-88143-105-2)
Sutton E. Griggs
Bookseller: BookHolders
(College Park, MD, U.S.A.)
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Book Description: Good [ No Hassle 30 Day Returns ][ Ships Daily ] [ Underlining/Highlighting: NONE ] [ Writing: NONE ] [ Torn pages: NO ] [ Broken Seams: NO ] [ Edition: Reprint ] Publisher: Beaufort Books Pub Date: 6/1/1969 Binding: Paperback Pages: 265 Reprint edition. Bookseller Inventory # 892105
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2. Stock Photo Imperium in Imperio (Ayer Publication-Revised) (ISBN: 0881431052 / 0-88143-105-2)
Sutton E. Griggs
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(College Park, MD, U.S.A.)
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Book Description: Good [ No Hassle 30 Day Returns ][ Ships Daily ] [ Underlining/Highlighting: SOME ] [ Writing: SOME ] [ Torn pages: NO ] [ Broken Seams: NO ] [ Edition: Reprint ] Publisher: Ayer Pub Date: 01/2001 Binding: Paperback Pages: 265 Reprint edition. Bookseller Inventory # 834102
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3. Stock Photo Imperium in Imperio (ISBN: 9780881431056)
Griggs, Sutton E
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(Sparks, NV, U.S.A.)
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Book Description: Beaufort Books, 1969. Book Condition: Very Good. Attractive. Shows some signs of wear and is no longer fresh. Bookseller Inventory # SA0009803272
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4. Stock Photo Imperium in Imperio, by Griggs (ISBN: 9780881431056)
Griggs, Sutton E.
Bookseller: Bookbyte / Norwest Textbooks
(Salem, OR, U.S.A.)
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Book Description: Ayer Co Pub. Book Condition: Not Pretty. Imperium in Imperio, by Griggs by Griggs, Sutton E. Paperback Some Staining;Frayed Corners/Bent Cover. SKU:12749339 All orders shipped within 1 business day. Bookseller Inventory # 12749339
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5. Stock Photo Imperium in Imperio (ISBN: 0881431052 / 0-88143-105-2)
Sutton E. Griggs
Bookseller: Net Textstore, LLC.
(Lincoln, NE, U.S.A.)
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Book Description: Beaufort Books, 1969. Paperback. Book Condition: Good. Books have varying amounts of wear and highlighting. Usually ships within 24 hours in quality packaging. Satisfaction guaranteed. Books have varying amounts of wear, highlighting and may not include CD. Usually ships within 24 hours in quality packaging. Satisfaction guaranteed. We are not able to ship internationally. Bookseller Inventory # GRIGIMP01
Sur Abebooks, on voit:
1. Stock Photo Imperium in Imperio (ISBN: 0881431052 / 0-88143-105-2)
Sutton E. Griggs
Bookseller: BookHolders
(College Park, MD, U.S.A.)
Bookseller Rating:
Price: US$ 1.00
[Convert Currency]
Quantity: 1 Shipping within U.S.A.:
US$ 4.25
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Book Description: Good [ No Hassle 30 Day Returns ][ Ships Daily ] [ Underlining/Highlighting: NONE ] [ Writing: NONE ] [ Torn pages: NO ] [ Broken Seams: NO ] [ Edition: Reprint ] Publisher: Beaufort Books Pub Date: 6/1/1969 Binding: Paperback Pages: 265 Reprint edition. Bookseller Inventory # 892105
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2. Stock Photo Imperium in Imperio (Ayer Publication-Revised) (ISBN: 0881431052 / 0-88143-105-2)
Sutton E. Griggs
Bookseller: BookHolders
(College Park, MD, U.S.A.)
Bookseller Rating:
Price: US$ 1.00
[Convert Currency]
Quantity: 1 Shipping within U.S.A.:
US$ 4.25
[Rates & Speeds]
Book Description: Good [ No Hassle 30 Day Returns ][ Ships Daily ] [ Underlining/Highlighting: SOME ] [ Writing: SOME ] [ Torn pages: NO ] [ Broken Seams: NO ] [ Edition: Reprint ] Publisher: Ayer Pub Date: 01/2001 Binding: Paperback Pages: 265 Reprint edition. Bookseller Inventory # 834102
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3. Stock Photo Imperium in Imperio (ISBN: 9780881431056)
Griggs, Sutton E
Bookseller: Sparks Distribution Services
(Sparks, NV, U.S.A.)
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Price: US$ 2.72
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Book Description: Beaufort Books, 1969. Book Condition: Very Good. Attractive. Shows some signs of wear and is no longer fresh. Bookseller Inventory # SA0009803272
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4. Stock Photo Imperium in Imperio, by Griggs (ISBN: 9780881431056)
Griggs, Sutton E.
Bookseller: Bookbyte / Norwest Textbooks
(Salem, OR, U.S.A.)
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Price: US$ 2.95
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Book Description: Ayer Co Pub. Book Condition: Not Pretty. Imperium in Imperio, by Griggs by Griggs, Sutton E. Paperback Some Staining;Frayed Corners/Bent Cover. SKU:12749339 All orders shipped within 1 business day. Bookseller Inventory # 12749339
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5. Stock Photo Imperium in Imperio (ISBN: 0881431052 / 0-88143-105-2)
Sutton E. Griggs
Bookseller: Net Textstore, LLC.
(Lincoln, NE, U.S.A.)
Bookseller Rating:
Price: US$ 4.50
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Quantity: 1 Shipping within U.S.A.:
US$ 3.99
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Book Description: Beaufort Books, 1969. Paperback. Book Condition: Good. Books have varying amounts of wear and highlighting. Usually ships within 24 hours in quality packaging. Satisfaction guaranteed. Books have varying amounts of wear, highlighting and may not include CD. Usually ships within 24 hours in quality packaging. Satisfaction guaranteed. We are not able to ship internationally. Bookseller Inventory # GRIGIMP01
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Stock Photo Blake or The Huts of America (ISBN: 080706419X / 0-8070-6419-X)
Martin R. Delany
Bookseller: Gardner's Used Books, Inc.
(Tulsa, OK, U.S.A.)
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Book Description: Beacon Press, 1971. Paperback. Book Condition: Acceptable. Appears to be 1996 reprint. Book is very canted. Creased spine. Covers are creased and have moderate rubbing and edge wear. Note written on half title page. Marginalia and underlining throughout. An acceptable reading copy. Moisture stain at upper corner. Some spotting and smudging at edges. copyright date inside book different than "officially" listed Thank you for browsing. A REAL Used Bookstore since 1991. No-hassle return policy if not completely satisfied. Bookseller Inventory # mon0000041534
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2. Stock Photo Blake or The Huts of America (ISBN: 080706419X / 0-8070-6419-X)
Martin R. Delany
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(Baltimore, MD, U.S.A.)
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Book Description: Beacon Press, 1971. UNKNOWN. Standard used condition. Bookseller Inventory # 7426410ZZN399tol
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3. Stock Photo Blake or The Huts of America (ISBN: 080706419X / 0-8070-6419-X)
Martin R. Delany
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(Baltimore, MD, U.S.A.)
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Book Description: Beacon Press, 1971. UNKNOWN. Standard used condition. Bookseller Inventory # 7410527ZZH279tol
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Stock Photo Blake or The Huts of America (ISBN: 080706419X / 0-8070-6419-X)
Martin R. Delany
Bookseller: Gardner's Used Books, Inc.
(Tulsa, OK, U.S.A.)
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Price: US$ 3.86
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Book Description: Beacon Press, 1971. Paperback. Book Condition: Acceptable. Appears to be 1996 reprint. Book is very canted. Creased spine. Covers are creased and have moderate rubbing and edge wear. Note written on half title page. Marginalia and underlining throughout. An acceptable reading copy. Moisture stain at upper corner. Some spotting and smudging at edges. copyright date inside book different than "officially" listed Thank you for browsing. A REAL Used Bookstore since 1991. No-hassle return policy if not completely satisfied. Bookseller Inventory # mon0000041534
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2. Stock Photo Blake or The Huts of America (ISBN: 080706419X / 0-8070-6419-X)
Martin R. Delany
Bookseller: Pro Quo Books
(Baltimore, MD, U.S.A.)
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Price: US$ 3.95
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Book Description: Beacon Press, 1971. UNKNOWN. Standard used condition. Bookseller Inventory # 7426410ZZN399tol
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3. Stock Photo Blake or The Huts of America (ISBN: 080706419X / 0-8070-6419-X)
Martin R. Delany
Bookseller: Pro Quo Books
(Baltimore, MD, U.S.A.)
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Merci tout plein !
J'ai pas eu le temps de faire les recherches moi-même vu que j'ai eu des lecteurs pour venir me voir et même me demander où il pouvait trouver certains ouvrages (les gens sont d'un sans-gênes en bibliothèque
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C'est pas très cher tout ça, tant mieux. Après, va falloir que j'affûte mon anglais parce que autant baragouiner dans la langue de Shakespeare, ça peut aller, autant lire un bouquin entièrement en anglais risque de relever de la gageure.
J'ai pas eu le temps de faire les recherches moi-même vu que j'ai eu des lecteurs pour venir me voir et même me demander où il pouvait trouver certains ouvrages (les gens sont d'un sans-gênes en bibliothèque

C'est pas très cher tout ça, tant mieux. Après, va falloir que j'affûte mon anglais parce que autant baragouiner dans la langue de Shakespeare, ça peut aller, autant lire un bouquin entièrement en anglais risque de relever de la gageure.
La meilleure preuve que l' homme n' est pas fait pour le travail, c' est que ça le fatigue... (Mark Twain)